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Post by azlan123 on Oct 31, 2007 22:50:29 GMT 8
Hi Qwek & guys,
if you have read my previous message. you will find that I had Lampans going after my crazy charlie, but they did not bite. was I using the wrong fly or the wrong size hook?
Could anyone teach me how to make a "bread fly" (ie. without using flour, eggs & water)?
Any other suggestions as to what type of flies I could use for Lampans?
cheers bro eric
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Post by snakeriver on Nov 1, 2007 11:17:51 GMT 8
Hi Qwek & guys, if you have read my previous message. you will find that I had Lampans going after my crazy charlie, but they did not bite. was I using the wrong fly or the wrong size hook? Could anyone teach me how to make a "bread fly" (ie. without using flour, eggs & water)? Any other suggestions as to what type of flies I could use for Lampans? cheers bro eric Hi Eric, Our local lampans here are often fed bread by not only anglers but other park users, so they are used to eating bread. I have tried dry flies on them and it works esp. during low light. Other flies that can consider is to use nymph. You may want to check what is thier main diet at your water. Downsizing the hooks or changing to nymph may help you. For bread flies, the best material is a wool/foam like piece which can be bought from Coho. We add a small piece of foam and cover the hook with this material to make it float. Maybe some bros here can down the photo on how to tie it to show you ;D Eric, I read some old HK fishing mag. and there is a spot where big milkfish are and they use spinning gear and bread to catch them. It will be a line burning experience for you if you use bread fly and fly gear to catch them. You may want to check out the place. cheers, Fred
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Post by Qwek on Nov 1, 2007 12:44:57 GMT 8
Hi Eric, Snakeriver has described the popular method for the breadfly, the foam or furry foam can be subsitute with ovenhood filter or the you can you spun deer hair and trim to look like a piece of bread. For the pellet fly, I used foam pellet that i got from the local art shops. Here one with pellets on it. It is very simple to tie. First I tread a 4 lbs mono thru the first oellet and then thru the next. Here you have two pellets string on the mono, then I tread back the mono thru the last pellet and out thru the first. Both pellets can be kept apart or together. Holding both tag ends of the mono, I place them on the hook shaft toward the eye so that the pellet are suspended from the back. The mono is whip down onto the shaft with black thread. To keep the first pellet secured, i figured 9 the thread around the first pellet. Hope this help. Cheers Qwek
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Post by Mattseah on Nov 1, 2007 17:36:33 GMT 8
Hi Azlan,
You can try using aquarium filter foam.. cut into small pieces.. or if you have while glo bug yarn, that should work as well..
I just got myself a packet of glo bug yarn.. looking forward to trying them out in singapore when im back.. I think I know a few places they might work ;D
Hope this helps,
Regards, Matthew
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Post by azlan123 on Nov 1, 2007 17:41:19 GMT 8
hi snake,
greetings and thanks. unfortunately when I was at Coho, I did not think to buy the foams for bread fly. will try the white sea-sponge my wife uses in the bath. hope the lampans like her perfume soap. the wool mat. seems to be a better solution.
as for milkfish, yes, we have quite a few place where they congregate this time of the year. esp. the Shatin Shing-mun estuary at shatin bay (lot of mullets in spring too), the tuen-mun estuary (an excellent job done by the environment department to restore a very very polluted river) in the new territories (West Hong Kong), and now recently at Tin Shui Wai river and the Sun-po-kong outlet. now that the environment department has cleaned up these estuaries fishes including huge barras, tilapias and sand-perches, are a frequent sight. but I have so far yet to try to get them with a fly (in the past I frequently use lures for them). hope to do it soon.
cheers bro
eric
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Post by azlan123 on Nov 1, 2007 17:46:55 GMT 8
You can try using aquarium filter foam.. cut into small pieces.. or if you have while glo bug yarn, that should work as well.. hi matt glad to hear from you. have been keenly following your exploits down under in aussieland. great stuff. I really enjoyed my time, though all so short, with the brothers. and to hear and see their exploits at all the key spots for PBs! hope your lines burn and reels sing with the PB at the fly! if you should ever come to HK let me know. you can stay at the uni guest house as a "visiting scholar" for far less than the exorbitant hotel rates these day. cheers and thanks bro eric
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Post by azlan123 on Nov 1, 2007 17:49:29 GMT 8
For the pellet fly, I used foam pellet that i got from the local art shops. Here one with pellets on it. hi Q, lovely fly. will try it this weekend. hope my wife doesn't notice her shrinking bath sponge. cheers bro eric
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Post by snakeriver on Nov 1, 2007 21:33:15 GMT 8
hi snake, greetings and thanks. unfortunately when I was at Coho, I did not think to buy the foams for bread fly. will try the white sea-sponge my wife uses in the bath. hope the lampans like her perfume soap. the wool mat. seems to be a better solution. as for milkfish, yes, we have quite a few place where they congregate this time of the year. esp. the Shatin Shing-mun estuary at shatin bay (lot of mullets in spring too), the tuen-mun estuary (an excellent job done by the environment department to restore a very very polluted river) in the new territories (West Hong Kong), and now recently at Tin Shui Wai river and the Sun-po-kong outlet. now that the environment department has cleaned up these estuaries fishes including huge barras, tilapias and sand-perches, are a frequent sight. but I have so far yet to try to get them with a fly (in the past I frequently use lures for them). hope to do it soon. cheers bro eric Hi Eric, Great to know that you know where those milkies lurk ;D The brothers here will tell you that is a very strong fish on fly. Good luck to the soap foam, hope those lampans will fall for it Hope one day when I get to visit HK again, will have a chance to try for those milkies. I am sure you will love them once you hook one up
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Post by Mattseah on Nov 2, 2007 13:19:02 GMT 8
Hi Eric, Glad to know you had a goos time with the PB's in Singapore.. You should have a go at the milkfish, make sure your equpment's up for it though.. you won't look at them the same way again after you've got one on fly. And thanks for the offer. Don't think i'll have a chance to go up anytime soon.. but those milkfish do sound tempting.. Regards, Matthew
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