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Post by haggai on Sept 21, 2006 0:33:01 GMT 8
Salom to All FFS members
This is my beginning with the 1st investment of a Coho Flycast 8'3"TLW #4 / Hardy Sirrus Reel acquired early Sept.
Thanks to Alberto for the 1st quick lesson on the basic cast. I will faithfully practice, practice & practice and I did just that every weeked for last 2 weeks.
Result? My palm, wrist, forearm & shoulder muscle became very very sore. My little pinky blistered and had to plaster to hold the rod! This appears to be hard labour! Wow! but it's great fun. Many many times I had the fly/tippet 1st hit and tangled with my rod, it even hit the back of my head to shock me!!! I had to reverse my cap and lower the lid as a shield from the deadly fly. I had knots on my tippets and had to cut and replaced them.
All this I practiced at the reservoirs and I hope none was watching my preoccupation with a stick!
I will continue. I have meantime gone to the net searching for all casting tips/lessons for more practice plus of course tips from our gurus here and then I hope earnestly to have my 1st strike to break the ice.
Salom Haggai
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Post by alberto on Sept 21, 2006 8:37:23 GMT 8
Dear Haggai, Please give me a call... I got something for u ;D ;D ;D
Kean lei, mai too leow ... veli soon u be casting like Lefty Kreh hor ;D
regards and salom Alberto
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Post by fisho on Sept 21, 2006 9:41:00 GMT 8
Result? My palm, wrist, forearm & shoulder muscle became very very sore. My little pinky blistered and had to plaster to hold the rod! This appears to be hard labour! Wow! but it's great fun. Many many times I had the fly/tippet 1st hit and tangled with my rod, it even hit the back of my head to shock me!!! I had to reverse my cap and lower the lid as a shield from the deadly fly. I had knots on my tippets and had to cut and replaced them. Hi Haggai, muscle sore - the muscles sore is common in the beginning cos' u r using some muscles not previously toned / strained. Blisters - The blisters on your sore palm, fingers probably means that u r gripping the rod handle too tightly. Relax your grip, only a firm hold is required. Gripping tightly also tend to stiffen your arm movement & tighten the arm muscles more, (muscle sore).. ReLAx.. the knots on your tippet is commonly called "wind knots", together with the fly hitting the rod tip prompts that u are probably moving the rod too flat or straight. Watch the fly line. A loop should be formed when cast with the rod moving in a curve. The tippet /fly should be over the fly line. Move the rod in a straight line, the fly line loop flattens resulting the above. Yup, cap/hat with bib & eye glasses for protection, as said, debarb the hook if u practise C&R, lesser injury to fish to be released or angler.. ;D it great to hear that u r enjoying the fly cast practise. Go catch up with others or CoHo's sifus to correct the cast b4 bad habits set in. Cheers!
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Post by cookiemunster on Sept 21, 2006 9:52:47 GMT 8
Hi there Haggai,
glad to hear of a fellow new fly angler. I also just started and now learning casting too. Do try to seek out henry of COHO, he is really a true master caster. Every rod and flyline seems to obey him without question. Its amazing just watching him cast.
I too have the sore neck and shoulders problem. I think its because I'm still not casting it correctly or in a relaxed enough method.
Cheers
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Post by poisonmaster on Sept 21, 2006 10:42:21 GMT 8
Henry the master surely will scream " dun grip the rod so tight....siao ah..?" or "your hand so stiff... sure will pain lah....relax relax....loosen the muscles..." "ah...like that..." cos i karna his screaming before...and its such good lessons...
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Post by xxJiMboZxx on Sept 21, 2006 10:48:25 GMT 8
;D ;D ;D he knows everyone is talking abt him, screaming at ppl.... I dun think he does it now! so you will learn slower leow!
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Post by Qwek on Sept 21, 2006 11:03:14 GMT 8
I still having that ringing in my ears, but I'm glad it still there for it will remind me of the casting lessons and help to correct by mistakes. Thanks Henry.
Salom haggai, welcome to FFSF. Do practise with the bard cut off or better still do not tie on the fly until you get the hang of it.
Cheers Qwek
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Post by haggai on Sept 21, 2006 23:01:33 GMT 8
Dear Haggai, Please give me a call... I got something for u ;D ;D ;D Kean lei, mai too leow ... veli soon u be casting like Lefty Kreh hor ;D regards and salom Alberto Thank you Alberto, I appreciate it. Salom Haggai
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Post by haggai on Sept 21, 2006 23:08:38 GMT 8
Result? My palm, wrist, forearm & shoulder muscle became very very sore. My little pinky blistered and had to plaster to hold the rod! This appears to be hard labour! Wow! but it's great fun. Many many times I had the fly/tippet 1st hit and tangled with my rod, it even hit the back of my head to shock me!!! I had to reverse my cap and lower the lid as a shield from the deadly fly. I had knots on my tippets and had to cut and replaced them. Hi Haggai, muscle sore - the muscles sore is common in the beginning cos' u r using some muscles not previously toned / strained. Blisters - The blisters on your sore palm, fingers probably means that u r gripping the rod handle too tightly. Relax your grip, only a firm hold is required. Gripping tightly also tend to stiffen your arm movement & tighten the arm muscles more, (muscle sore).. ReLAx.. the knots on your tippet is commonly called "wind knots", together with the fly hitting the rod tip prompts that u are probably moving the rod too flat or straight. Watch the fly line. A loop should be formed when cast with the rod moving in a curve. The tippet /fly should be over the fly line. Move the rod in a straight line, the fly line loop flattens resulting the above. Yup, cap/hat with bib & eye glasses for protection, as said, debarb the hook if u practise C&R, lesser injury to fish to be released or angler.. ;D it great to hear that u r enjoying the fly cast practise. Go catch up with others or CoHo's sifus to correct the cast b4 bad habits set in. Cheers! Great tips Fisho! I shall remember them. Thanks again. Salom Haggai
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Post by haggai on Sept 21, 2006 23:22:56 GMT 8
Hi Cookiemunster, JimBo, Poisonmaster, Quek
Yes, Henry is very popular and respected here. I shall look forward to meeting him. He appears to have such great passion for the sport.
Thanks for your many advices & guidance, how can I not improve!
Salom Haggai
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Post by poisonmaster on Sept 22, 2006 15:43:04 GMT 8
;D ;D ;D he knows everyone is talking abt him, screaming at ppl.... I dun think he does it now! so you will learn slower leow! I appreciate him screaming at me... this way i will learn... come to think of it... time for more screaming for me from him ;D
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Post by haggai on Sept 22, 2006 23:45:38 GMT 8
And the practice continues................................................................ Got back from work and before darkness set in went to an open fileld for some practice casting. It was good!
And tomorrow it's Saturday! It will be very very good!!! Will try all the tips by YOU gurus.
Salom Haggai
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Post by pirate! on Sept 23, 2006 19:41:18 GMT 8
i have only one piece of advice... look behind before you cast to avoid hooking any passer-bys. ;D all the best!
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Post by haggai on Sept 25, 2006 23:11:24 GMT 8
Tks Ah Ren, I'll keep that in mind.
On Sat, had 2 sessions practice, now I have callous on my palm. Noticed leader/tippet not aligning in straight path. Changed leader in 3 sections, 1st section - 15 lbs, 10 & 6. Am I doing this correct?
Salom Haggai
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Post by cookiemunster on Sept 26, 2006 17:36:12 GMT 8
Hi Haggai,
from what I've learnt, the idea of tapering the leader is to allow the force to travel down the line to the fly evenly for good presentation. Henry says its not really necessary in murky waters of singapore. So just a simple 6lb leader of about 8ft (or less for us beginners) would be sufficient.
However if you want to be fussy like me, ;D you can do the twist. I mean just cut about 18ft of mono 10lb, then twist slowly together from the bottom loop using thumb and forefinger to rotate in opp directions the two lines together. This will form a 9ft twisted line. Then divide it into 3 sections and twist again to form a length of 3ft triple to 3ft double twist. Then connect a 3ft long flourocarbon 6lb leader. So you would have a single line of
3ft (3 x 10lb) ---> 3ft (2 x 10lb) ---> 3ft (1 x 6 lb)
Hard to imagine but it would be alot easier if I could show you or just pop down to Henry's place.
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