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Post by Qwek on Oct 6, 2005 9:25:02 GMT 8
Hi folks,
Recently I've been casting with heavier tackle; 6-8wt in preparation for the next Paradise Trip. Found out that I have bad habits, which are probably ingrained now.
One is the Creep, moving my casting hand forward before the backcast fully extend causing me to lose momentum on my forward cast. Which leads to another problem:
The Snap; at the end of the forward cast, I tends to snap my wrist forward to gain additional power which causes the line to slam into itself.
Some of you have the same problems, like to share how you overcome them.
Cheers Qwek
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Post by alberto on Oct 6, 2005 16:21:21 GMT 8
Hi Qwek, You know how I improved my casting, by getting hollared and scream at by someone. And I greatful to this person to this day for taking the time do so and teach me. regards Alberto ps - Althought I'm not suggesting you take the same path
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Post by xxJiMboZxx on Oct 6, 2005 21:01:41 GMT 8
Huh! could it be the same person who scream at and scolded me too?
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Post by Agent X on Oct 6, 2005 22:13:16 GMT 8
Well, instead of 'Creeping' maybe you can try 'Drifting'? waahahahah. But there is actually a term called 'Drifting'... instead of of moving the hand forward, let it drift back a little, as the line hand is 'led' by the unrolling line towards the rod hand. That's when u're like a loaded bow ready to shoot the arrow.... As for the 'snap', it should go away once you get the hang of the finishing stroke...
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Post by mtshark on Oct 7, 2005 1:35:59 GMT 8
For me... Dont hold the rod too tight and apply some drifting technic as mentioned earlier by Agent X for lighter outfit. I used to hold the rod so tight till the 'cork' cant breathe and the rod cant perform but after going loose on my grip (reasonable strength to still hold the rod in hand for casting) I can feel the line better. For ultralite like Black Hole Harvest 0-1wt, drifting is pretty a must to keep the line in momentum. I must thank nymph who is my casting partner. We practise casting pretty often back then and we helped each other abit here and bit there and mostly he helps me though etc. If you can find a partner to cast with, it would be more exciting than to do casting alone. Otherwise, we might not know that we are always practising on our mistakes over and over again... Cheers.
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Post by Qwek on Oct 7, 2005 16:16:56 GMT 8
Thank guys,
I get the drift... ;D ;D ;D
Cheers Qwek
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Post by xxJiMboZxx on Oct 7, 2005 18:11:42 GMT 8
I think only after drinking a few jugs of beers then I'll get the drift!
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Post by Agent X on Oct 7, 2005 20:44:36 GMT 8
I think only after drinking a few jugs of beers then I'll get the drift! yah man, even your "Fly" mobile can 'drift' hor.... ;D
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Post by azlan123 on Aug 8, 2006 8:38:57 GMT 8
hi, just views from a freshy again . I was told, try casting sideways in front of your body, look at the fly as its moves, get the feel of how the line and rod feels as the line goes to full extension, then close eyes to fell the movement. Then try a side-body cast, do the same, move on to a full overhead cast, do the same. After awhile you'll get the hang of it. Carefull not to pull the ear off!!!!! Cheers eric
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Post by azlan123 on Aug 8, 2006 11:56:30 GMT 8
hi its me again , there is an excellent website in scotland that had very clear instruction helping new flyers, log into www.letsflyfish.com and click 'casting' on the subject bar on top. it even has animated illustrations. cheers ;D eric
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Post by azlan123 on Aug 13, 2006 17:27:50 GMT 8
hi its me again, did you spend any time fishing or practicing your casting? I manage to do some of it in between my summer teaching schedule at HKUni. This is what I found, and need help from anyone "logging in": 1. the creep occured the first time I stinched on using low braided line for tippet, instead of a mono. 2. when I was releasing line in my forward cast, and forgot to apply the same amount of energythus losing the momentum 3. when doing 2. and letting the rod move into anything lower than the 1 o'clock position, esp when I allowed the rod to point iat the water infront so, questions: 1. even after watching a casting DVD (no teachers here in HK), when and how should I release more line into my cast to achieve the distance I need? 2. what would be the ideal leader-tippet, esp when I'm trying to save money and use homemade ones out of nylon fishline for leader and flouro for tippet?
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Post by mtshark on Aug 17, 2006 14:31:08 GMT 8
hi its me again, did you spend any time fishing or practicing your casting? I manage to do some of it in between my summer teaching schedule at HKUni. This is what I found, and need help from anyone "logging in": 1. the creep occured the first time I stinched on using low braided line for tippet, instead of a mono. 2. when I was releasing line in my forward cast, and forgot to apply the same amount of energythus losing the momentum 3. when doing 2. and letting the rod move into anything lower than the 1 o'clock position, esp when I allowed the rod to point iat the water infront so, questions: 1. even after watching a casting DVD (no teachers here in HK), when and how should I release more line into my cast to achieve the distance I need? 2. what would be the ideal leader-tippet, esp when I'm trying to save money and use homemade ones out of nylon fishline for leader and flouro for tippet? Hi azlan123, In regards to your casting questions, it is going to be tough for many here to give you an answer in words here although some of the fliers here are really casting masters. I have a site which is pretty informative and maybe you would like to take a look. www.sexyloops.com/index.shtmlLook under their 'articles' section, alot of things to disgest for our brains. Afterall, the best way to improve further is to have a friend who is also as crazy as you for flyfishing. The more the merrier. I have not wet a fly line for awhile but I am still casting with my friends in open fields ensuring myself that I still have that loops in the air. As for the tippet, I have a little formulae which I use. 20lbs mono (twisted=40lbs strength) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (6ft) 20lbs mono (same as above but single strend) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (3ft) 10-15lbs tippet (flurocarbon or not depending on the fish) ----- (1-1.5ft) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx----- I use the above example for my 6wt. With the same formulae but using a 10lbs mono, I used it for 4wt and below and it works alright with my 0wt too. I will use 3-4lbs for tippet for ultralite. I got this formulae after much experimenting with my friends. Some of the formulaes in the net require us to have different diameter tippets ready at all time. You may have to carry a few sizes to make them. I use only one size to create 90% of my leader, the rest of the 10% is the tippet. It works fine with me and my friends. Good luck! Regards. Edward
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Post by azlan123 on Aug 17, 2006 14:53:54 GMT 8
hi mtshark thank ;)s.really helps. in Hong Kong, hardly any open fields, but am lucky sice there is a small reservoir next to where I live. but alot of overhangs and trees. will take your advice to construct leader & tippet. Have not found anyone else using fly yet in HK. still looking. if you know of any lion-city guys in HK, please let me know. thanks ;D eric
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Post by mtshark on Aug 17, 2006 17:33:21 GMT 8
hi mtshark thank ;)s.really helps. in Hong Kong, hardly any open fields, but am lucky sice there is a small reservoir next to where I live. but alot of overhangs and trees. will take your advice to construct leader & tippet. Have not found anyone else using fly yet in HK. still looking. if you know of any lion-city guys in HK, please let me know. thanks ;D eric You are most welcomed. I'll keep a lookout for you. Regards. Edward
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Post by azlan123 on Oct 25, 2007 11:57:58 GMT 8
hi Qwek,
a little bit of delay finding a suitable container, but finally found a st croix container. the glass-rod should be on the way by next week.
further,my casting is improving, although sometimes fatigue (must get a lighter rod, my st croix 5wt is killing me), impatience (forgeting your words of wisdom 1-2-3, and henry's keep-upper-arm-to body) and trying to get at the fast-disappearing rising fish (bye-bye..ah so slow already) can cause the creep again.
now I have another problem: have difficulty casting weighted clousers. got hit on the head several times. so sometime I can get it out in a straight line without the creep, at other / many a time the line collapses.
The other problem is because it is weighted, taking the line out of the water causes a rather loud "plop" especially when I have about 10 meters or more of line out. tried falsecasting, but found it difficult to control with a weighted fly. flying weighted red-white clousers can be dangerous and easily spotted by tired flyers blood, besides sweat, and accompanied by colourful multi-language swearings from a hazzled professor of anthropology. need your wisdom.
cheers bro
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