Worthy IPOs

[AnglerAdventurer]

Hi YH,

Now look what you have got me into........

The species of Rasboras you mentioned are suitable to our home waters but would like to highlight some points,

Rasbora Trinileata( I think you mean Trilineata) otherwise known as "three lined" rasbora or "Bada" as the common name. This species are found in lakes, ponds & rivers and they are native to Thailand and Northern Peninsular Malaysia.

Rasbora Daniconius. This species inhabits mainly sandy streams & rivers.

Rasbora Caudimaculata otherwise known as "Greater Scissortail" is not a common species.

If I am not mistaken, almost all the Rasbora species are similar to pelagic, swimming continuously......that is why they are found in most water flowing forest streams. Occasionally, you find them in ponds and lakes in the wild.

My choice of Rasbora would be the Rasbora Elegans or "Ikan Seluang". Being the largest of the species found in Singapore waters at 13cm, this indigenous species are surface and midwater dwellers.

I have also seen the "Black-line" or "Red-tail" Rasbora Borapetensis, species of Thailand and Northern Peninsular Malaysia in Singapore. This hardy fish has established in the ponds of the Botanic Gardens.

I would think the Rasbora Trilineata, Elegans & Borapetensis species would be the better candidates in our home waters. I might be wrong here but I think with more positive discussions and outfield observations, the IPOs are worth it.

Huns.

[AnglerAdventurer]

Hi YH,

The Rasbora which you happen to come across in Ipoh that looks like tamban, mind sharing more info with me like where you guys found it, the location, environment of the body of water. I will be visiting Ipoh for a week from the 21st........... might just do some "field observation" on them when there.

The other thing I would like to discuss with our fellow fly fishermen here is the "Ikan Busuk" of Lake Kenyir. The closest I have come to of this fish name is Oxygaster Anomalura, Cyprinidae(Minnows or Carps), wonder if it's the right name.......


Ikan Busuk fish caught on dry fly.



If I am not mistaken,this is one of the Rasbora species caught on dry fly in Lake Kenyir.


I find this particular species very intriguing, it grows to about 20cm in length, pelagic and thrives in water temperatures of 22-27C with a pH range of 6-7.2 They are native, can be found from Thailand to Indonesia. A surface dweller of small mountain rivers with almost complete forest canopy and feeds on exogenous insects and chironomid larvae. But they are flourishing well in large schools out in the open of Lake Kenyir.

Just a wild guess, do you think it's an ideal candidate for an IPO listing?

The best part of it is, they do take dry fly willingly! Nutsfactory & me can swear by that!

Huns.

[AnglerAdventurer]

Hi YH,

The Ikan Busuk were fly fished from the upper reaches of Sungei Petuang and along the port side of Ah Chong's resort(when coming in by boat to the disembarkation point). But you can see the schools of ikan busuk almost everywhere in Lake Kenyir and when the water surface of the lake is mirror calm, you will see them feeding on the surface.

I know it's gonna be a huge task to source for them in the market ....... but hey, least we know it's one good potential candidate for an IPO!

Huns.

[AnglerAdventurer]

Hi YH,

No worries, will keep my eyes wide open for them when in Ipoh! I will do what I can.

Huns.

[alberto]

Hi Guys,
I'm a little bit blur on what has been posted for the Rasboras...

Are they seeded for fishing or to feed something else?

regards
Alberto

[AnglerAdventurer]

Hi Alberto,

;D ;D ;D ;D The Rasbora species are suppose to be meals/food chain for the performers but when one is desperate, like me, will wet my Freestone XT or SCL fly rod for them on hook size #24, just to get the feel and thrills on them with dry fly!

Huns.

[alberto]

Hi Huns,
Heh Heh Heh...
Your Freestone XT & SCL will bend over with some lovely PBs when you back ;D

regards
alberto

[AnglerAdventurer]

My recent fly fishing trip to Clearwater Sanctuary in Ipoh wasn't that productive compared to the last 2 years. I can still recall those years, this place is just plain sick with fishes!

On this trip, there were no other species sighted in the big lakes, not even the small fries that take shelters along the grass edge......... except the Peacock bass and they are wiping out the rest of the other species fries. I also witness local fishermen using live-baits to catch the Peacock bass and taking home their catches for meals....... spoke to one of the fisherman, he was telling me the fish taste great on the frying pan! I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw him hauling up one of his keep net........ catch size range from 800g to 1.5kg of about 30 over pieces in each net and there were 3 keep nets in total. That's a big harvest!

The next day, I was invited to a private property fishing ground (not open to public). This place has a beautiful surrounding, though man-made, with many big ponds. In each pond, they are well stocked with fishes of Jelewat, Pacu, Patin, Tilapai, Carp, Koi, Soon Hock, Haruans and Lampang and I was given the privilege to wet my line in any of those ponds. On a few occasion, we landed Peacock bass of decent sizes but was told by the owner not to release it back into the ponds but to kill it. Somehow the Peacock bass found their way to the ponds from the surrounding small streams and the owner is afraid the Peacock bass might jeopardize his fish stocks......... just like in Clearwater Sanctuary.

To us fly fishermen(in Singapore) we treasure the Peacock bass species so much that some of us even go to the extend of buying bait fishes to feed them in our reservoirs........ BUT in Ipoh, Peacock bass are considered a pest. Now I see the damages being done............

[alberto]

Hi Huns,
I think the problem is that there is very little other species of fish in Singapore waters that will readily take a fly like the peacocks will, which is why we treasure them as such.

In the old days, tilapias was considered as pests as well because they infest the waters of the freshwater payponds like fleas on a dog's back. Trying to find them now is just as difficult.

Even last year, I can still catch zebras at 7Trees and Cake shop. It seems that lately, they have all disappeared or eat up

In the long run, we should be more careful of what we stock in the drink.

regards
Alberto

[poisonmaster]

alberto said:

Hi Huns,
I think the problem is that there is very little other species of fish in Singapore waters that will readily take a fly like the peacocks will, which is why we treasure them as such.

In the old days, tilapias was considered as pests as well because they infest the waters of the freshwater payponds like fleas on a dog's back. Trying to find them now is just as difficult.

Even last year, I can still catch zebras at 7Trees and Cake shop. It seems that lately, they have all disappeared or eat up

In the long run, we should be more careful of what we stock in the drink.

regards
Alberto

Maybe its time to look for fly grounds elsewhere on this tiny island?

[FCUK]

FCUK's Flyfishing Motto from 2005 :

Nevermind what fish, where fish, when fish, why fish, how fish - so long as there is......fish

Salty Wet Geylang Chi....

I mean, Kelong Chi - anyone ?

;D

[alberto]

fcuk said:

FCUK's Flyfishing Motto from 2005 :

Nevermind what fish, where fish, when fish, why fish, how fish - so long as there is......fish

Salty Wet Geylang Chi....

I mean, Kelong Chi - anyone ?

;D

Like they say in Malay " Lu boleh lah"

Alberto

[FCUK]

You mean like - " Wah Eh Sai " in Hokkien ?

" I tak FART-ham lah "

But considering the 2006 boat charter will be AED2,000, instead of RM300 - I certainly hope you're right

" Asalamwalaikum "

Dubai - anyone ?

;D

[FCUK]

But looking back, I remember enquiring with the ranger.....

" Here boleh tak ? ".......

" Here boleh - but lu tak boleh lah "........she replied

;D