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Post by Agent X on Feb 26, 2008 7:47:42 GMT 8
yup, the trip to SKW didn't produce... in fact, I didnt even get to cast... as the spot I intended to fish was in the Hk Musuem of Coastal Defence... Went for a little sight seeing at Heng Fa Chuen after that... to be honest, at the rate things are going, I might just hang up my rods and use my weekends for more productive things if the fishing does not get better when the weather warms up.
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Post by FrancisThong on Feb 26, 2008 9:13:47 GMT 8
yup, the trip to SKW didn't produce... in fact, I didnt even get to cast... as the spot I intended to fish was in the Hk Musuem of Coastal Defence... Went for a little sight seeing at Heng Fa Chuen after that... to be honest, at the rate things are going, I might just hang up my rods and use my weekends for more productive things if the fishing does not get better when the weather warms up. Hmmm.... maybe you can try fishing at LKF?!?!?!? ;D ;D It muz be awfully cold now. I wonder if HK anglers have the same habit of spinning live shrimps? ;D Well, I think the fish would mainly be in deeper water and probably weighted flies with heavy action would be the key? Just a thought? Is it very windy too?
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Post by kfd on Feb 26, 2008 13:46:47 GMT 8
it will be a traditionally low season for fishing for march april and may.... winter for bass and bream summer for mangrove snapper, barra and tapron
freshwater would be much better since there is no commercial fishing.
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Post by Agent X on Feb 27, 2008 0:00:53 GMT 8
it will be a traditionally low season for fishing for march april and may.... winter for bass and bream summer for mangrove snapper, barra and tapron freshwater would be much better since there is no commercial fishing. well, I guess I will hv to give the freshwater a go...
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Post by azlan123 on Feb 28, 2008 14:03:46 GMT 8
hi X
well, the sea-bass (qing lo or spotted lo) jacks crevalles and GTs (1-4 kilos) do bite this time of the year.
but you have to go on the 3-4 days before the 1st and 15th of the chinese lunar month and as the tide is rising (ie. early morning and i mean early 1am-3.30am) where you get the fast flow incoming water.
Try hiring a speed and guide boat at MaWan Qing LungTao in East NewTerritories; or a guide boat who will take you around the HK harbour between the mouth of the east and west channels to spots like the old kai takairport berthing area, the ferry docks around wanchai & central, the barge shelter & off-loading docks at the Western Tunnel; or way out to the Tung Chung Container terminal and the support-columns under the ching ma & ching yi bridges.
If you want to go freshwater flyfishing, the paidpond are always promising (esp .tai mei tok after taipo next the plover-cove), using wet flies with sinking or intermediate lines, use a light-green or brown colour line so as not to spook the fish. the best time is between 6.30am to 9.00am
I will be taking an american professor with me next wednesday or wednesday after next to tai mei tok & plover-cove, to introduce him to flyfishing. join us if you can sneakout.
cheers bro eric
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Post by Agent X on Feb 28, 2008 23:29:58 GMT 8
hi X well, the sea-bass (qing lo or spotted lo) jacks crevalles and GTs (1-4 kilos) do bite this time of the year. but you have to go on the 3-4 days before the 1st and 15th of the chinese lunar month and as the tide is rising (ie. early morning and i mean early 1am-3.30am) where you get the fast flow incoming water. Try hiring a speed and guide boat at MaWan Qing LungTao in East NewTerritories; or a guide boat who will take you around the HK harbour between the mouth of the east and west channels to spots like the old kai takairport berthing area, the ferry docks around wanchai & central, the barge shelter & off-loading docks at the Western Tunnel; or way out to the Tung Chung Container terminal and the support-columns under the ching ma & ching yi bridges. If you want to go freshwater flyfishing, the paidpond are always promising (esp .tai mei tok after taipo next the plover-cove), using wet flies with sinking or intermediate lines, use a light-green or brown colour line so as not to spook the fish. the best time is between 6.30am to 9.00am I will be taking an american professor with me next wednesday or wednesday after next to tai mei tok & plover-cove, to introduce him to flyfishing. join us if you can sneakout. cheers bro eric Thanks for the invite bro, but wednesdays don't look very possible for fishing for me. I don't really fancy going out on a boat on my own... would much prefer company on boat trips. If I had my own transport, things would be alot easier... so I can only make the best of what the public transport offers. Though it's quite disappointing to end up a donut every trip, I do however, get to do abit of exploring and see the sights. As long as the dollars and cents reproduce themselves in my storehouse, I'll still have the option of stretching my flyline someplace else where the finned critters are more accomodating...
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Post by Agent X on Mar 5, 2008 5:03:30 GMT 8
was out again on sunday to one of the locations kfd recommended. Quite surprised to see small mangrove jacks in a small rock pool, but they refused to take a fly. Will be exploring the area abit more in the coming weeks.
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Post by azlan123 on Mar 5, 2008 13:50:30 GMT 8
hi X
this is a good time for mangrove jacks. Two very good places: one is at the mangrove flats as you enter the Sai Kung (East NT, go via choi wan estate if driving; or MTR to Choi Hung Estate then minibus into saikung); the other is after you leave saikung town (2-3 kilometres) and come to the jetty with miniature mangroves.
ask triton tackles for names of several good fishing boats to take you to the flats. ask them for the best tidal rise time and place, tell them what you are after and you will see your money well spent (ie. anywhere from 400 to 800 HK$ depending on boatman's reputation & willingness to take you to the good spots if the flats are not producing).
I have gotten from the flats mjacksover a kilo, and qing lo over 2kilos from the flats. juvenile GTS and jack crevalle are also abundant in the flats during quick high tides, usually 3-4 days before the beginning & middle of the lunar month.
try the red (top) & white clouser (bottom), it drives them crazy, or a silver (bottom) & blue (top) clouser on a sturdy hook. a qinglo or juvenile GT will straighten most wire-hooks in no time.
use intermediate line to get the fly down, then retrieve it fast & jerk > pause > fast & jerk. the boatman may think you are crazy using a flyrod, but he will be suprised. don't worry if his prawn set up gets more fish. if fly is the choice, stick to it.
the water may be murky at times, & the fish may not be rising. trust your instincts, cast near the rocks or along the mangrove tree line. if you see baitfish jumping or swimming off fast, it means opportunity for hook up.
cheers bro
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Post by kfd on Apr 2, 2008 15:11:08 GMT 8
guys, any news on your fishing adventures? last time when i was out on freshwater, i spotted a 4kg size range snake head but ignored my fly... will wonder around more places later this month...
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Post by azlan123 on Apr 3, 2008 13:15:22 GMT 8
hi kfd
now that HK fishing season in reservoirs are over, I am going to Tai Mei Tok paid pond tomorrow morning (public holiday, ching ming) to flyfish. care to join me?
meet at taipo hui train station shopping complex at 7.30am for breakfast, then off to tai mei tok at 8am. call me 91606378.
yup, there are huge snakeheads & tomans in HK reservoirs & rivers. in reservoir, they are decimating the other fishes. the legendary giants are found in Tai-tam reservoir - the 'monster' , a toman, is about 1.5 metres long, weighing in at 12-14 kilos,caught-and-released by Fung of Treton Fishing Tackles; the others are in the pokfulam reservoir, the yun-long reservoirs (watch out for illegal immigrants who likes robbing hikers) and the plover-cove reservoir.
remember fishing season in government reservoir is now over! HK country park rangers mean business.so does HK goverment - HK2000 fine & 6 months imprisonment for poaching!!!!!
but the tai-tam lower reservoir seems to have whole family groups clustered together. 2 of their favourite spots are - the nullah outlet at the south-entrance to tai-tam, and the overflow-wash-outlet from the middle-reservoir into the lower reservoir. the last time I was at the outlet, we could see the parents (about 1 metre) guarding the fires.
there is spot on a river between taipo market and fanling, next to the power-substation that is infested with tomans & giant catfishes. but the villagers claim it is their river (which is not, as there is no law on traditional fishing right in HK, but no one is silly enough to argue with crazy-people and their sticks & dogs) . so go at your own risk!
cheers bro eric
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Post by kfd on Apr 3, 2008 22:20:03 GMT 8
I'd love to join, but i'm not able to make it tomorrow. apreciate for you invitation bro
do you have info on abandoned fish pond in yuen long?
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Post by azlan123 on Apr 7, 2008 9:35:48 GMT 8
hi kfd
these so called abandoned ponds usually have their owners or caretakers, or 'claim-to-be-owner' living nearby. proceed with caution - my personal experience was a bad one. what seems abandon will have 'owners' demanding compensation when they see a "fat goose" trespassing, especially if you are still retaining your 'Spore cantonese-hokkien accent'.
if you seen any of these ponds you are interested in, just go and ask those living nearby for information or permission. if it is the owner or caretaker, they'll require a 'fee'. usually the locals get to fish there free.
be careful though, people have been dumping piranhas & 'exotic species' into these ponds when they got tired of them. last year an old man almost got his finger severed when he did not realise he had trouble at the end of his line.
good luck bro, eric
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Post by nutter on Apr 9, 2008 9:54:41 GMT 8
Hi Guys
Thanks for this thread. We are looking at moving to HK soon. We are living in Australia at the moment were the fishing is really good. This thread has help with the possibility to move. With out a hijack what wt rods are you using? keep the info going as Its helping. Need to tap into some new fish. We are looking at Kowloon (spelling) as a place to live but this can change.
Thanks Nutter
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Post by kfd on Apr 9, 2008 14:34:22 GMT 8
Eric,
i've managed to fish for 45mins or so at those ponds. No one seemed to care. (Stupidly, i spooked the fish out of the area where i fished and caught only one tilapia) Thanks for the head up thou. I dun mind giving the caretaker money as long as it's no a rip off and everything peaceful. By the way, I'm just Yuen Long local.. haha.. Trouty brought me to this board. Thanks fo him, i've met more fly fisher in HK
Nutter,
We dun have much resource for fly fishing here in HK. What I have for fishing are purchased when I visited the States or ordered from the States. I'm using 4/5wt for fresh and 8wt for salt. Dont expect fishing is very exciting in HK as we have serious over fishing problem here.
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Post by azlan123 on Apr 10, 2008 11:01:15 GMT 8
hi kfd,
great to know you are a yuen long local, maybe I'll join you some time later, as I've always wanted to fish there. perhaps after my return from Cambridge in May.
a 4 wt is usually sufficient for freshwater in hk, although at taimeitok when I'm going for the 'monsters' (3-8 kilo kwai-fa) I use a 5-6 wt on a 1.5 kilo tippet.
i get all my equiptment from online shops like cabelas, fishusa & bass pro (USA) as they are cheaper than the shops in the UK. Po Kee at Sheung Wan (HK Island) has some flies, lines, rods & reels, but they tend to be expensive & limited variety. but with the pound stirling going up, buying the hardy reels from po kee seems a good idea as the older version reels is still priced at the lower exchange rate.
I wish we could form a flyfishing club here in HK so we can gather all the flyers & share our tradecraft. Currently, the S'pore brothers are very kind to let us use their site for our exchange.
This is a good thing too as they are so very experienced, and guys like qwek, alberto, & others are always on hand to help us. I suggest that if you are going to S'pore for a holiday you should contact them to take you on a peacock bass 'safari'.
cheers bro eric
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