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Post by azlan123 on Oct 19, 2007 12:56:12 GMT 8
hi guys,
its now confirmed, there are PBs in one of HK Island's reservoir (Aberdeen Country Park Reservoir, south of the Island of HK)!
Its Chung Yang Festival in HK today, and a public holiday. Went fishing to the Lower Reservoir at Aberdeen Country Park...lo and behold, at the side of the dam, a shoal of 7 PB fries (smallest was 1 inch, the largest about 1 1/2 inch). I lowered a muddler-minnow (size 10), the little buggers went for it, just as aggressive as the ones at Spore near the president's home.
They could have been released or hopefully the fries of larger breeding PBs, but was unable to spot any though. Not sure how I feel about it.
Ambivalent I guess: elated because now we have an aggressive species that actively take flies, anxious because it could wipe out the other species in the reservoir. but since most of the former fishes are stocked by the Forest and Park Service Department, guess it will OK as long as we keep paying our license and the Park Service keep stocking the place.
In future if you guys are here in HK, maybe we will have a species that will be as worthy as those in the Amazon!
cheers bro eric
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Post by poisonmaster on Oct 19, 2007 16:46:23 GMT 8
Bro I think thats good news... Pbs will keep you entertained when the other species are slow... Use that Varivas Shad I passed you on them... They're deadly... The fly i mean ;D ;D p.s. would you like to post your message with pictures? they do speak a thousand words, you know? ;D
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Post by azlan123 on Oct 19, 2007 21:49:33 GMT 8
hi poison, will try the fly bro. apologies though, never thought I'd see these little fries in the reservoir, so did not bring a camera. will go again coming wednesday morning (mid-term study week, so no duties & classes at uni) . thanks ever so much for the rod, reel, line and flies. will use the lovely flies when the opportunity present itself. but need to learn more about PB habits. The only experience I had with them was at the place near the "president's home" in the waterway between the upper & lower pools. there they are boxed in a narrow and shallow space. how does one pursue them in a deep and rather large reservoir? one way, I guess, is to look for them. or to cast to the spot where there are overhangs or where small fishes may be gathering. Qwek and I went at 6.30am and fished until about 7.30am, quite a small window. would this be so in open waters? (by the way, the little buggers went after my size 10 muddler minnow, but i made sure they were not hooked...got to let them put on mucho weight and body, heh, heh... ) cheers bro eric (for those wanting to know more about PBs see: www.peacockbassonline.com/peacock_facts.html)
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Post by Qwek on Oct 19, 2007 22:34:30 GMT 8
Hi Azlan123,
Think FLORIDA!
Cheers Qwek
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Post by poisonmaster on Oct 19, 2007 23:51:36 GMT 8
at BR.... they were closed to shore...hitting the smaller fishes closer to shore... just throw in a white charlie with a sinking line n should be following it... unless HK Pbs dinner on Po Lo Pao and Yin Yeong... ;D ;D
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Post by azlan123 on Oct 20, 2007 9:11:58 GMT 8
hi guys another one to drive all of you bonkers:
as for PBs, one can only say, "a fish worthy of pursue and play!" with fly! stalk and cast, no other way, water splash! a crash...hit! what a day! to Spore will I return, come what may, my fat wife can only say, "That will be the day!"
good stalking and fishing for you guys I pray, wish I could wet the lines with you guys today! a rascal, a gangster on the line, with skill do play, breakfast with fellow flyers I will say, "teh tarek and spicy noodle" will I always miss to this day, kopi-o and fish stories in many ways they will say , "for brothers-in-arms, its the only way!"
cheers bro
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Post by alberto on Oct 20, 2007 10:05:08 GMT 8
Hi Eric, Christmas is going to be a little early for you this year. I'm meeting Santa in a couple of hours at the Takashimaya Post Office. He'll be delivering a box of recyclable fish food for you Hope you'll like it, regards Alberto
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Post by azlan123 on Oct 20, 2007 11:33:00 GMT 8
hi alberto,
thanks a million. not only did you put me in contact with a bunch of swell guys (qwek, huns, henry, etc), then bought me a cup of joe at orchard hotel, now christmas. don't know how to repay your hospitality and thank you guys.
if you and the guys are coming to HK, or when I come again to Spore, you must let me repay the hospitality.
thanks bro, will keep an eye for it. cheers
eric
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Post by xxJiMboZxx on Oct 20, 2007 21:16:01 GMT 8
Hi Eric, All the way from Hong Kong, here your flyline you wet, Seems you had a great time here, but too bad we never met, Rhythms and Rhymes, you express your stay here, to you, I take off my hat! Do come again and visit us here, together our flylines wet. ;D
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Post by azlan123 on Oct 21, 2007 6:44:56 GMT 8
hi Jimboz
it was a privilege to have fished and be taught by you guys in Spore. my casting is my biggest handicap till I received some invaluable pointers and training on the field opposite Coho and while fishing.
I spend as much time as I could practicing my casting now, and its alot better these days. could cast it about 10 metres on a 5wt 9 ft rod, then... it as if an invisible barrier exists. Trying hard now to go beyond this invisible point.
It will be great to fish with you and the guys, whether in Spore or HK (let me know if you are coming over). Here in HK we have no flyfishing forum nor are we organized in a club to help each other. Our biggest handicap is we do not have a place like Coho that sells decent fly equipment & to gather and exchange experiences.
rods and lines are always fine, with flies and guys a spot to find. Coho conversations, what a mine, to share and tell, and stretch the line... "heh guys! what's the time?" "Come on lah, never mind!" "Ahhh, his fat wife's waiting, so is mine" "So morrow again brothers, here, at the same time!"
cheers Jim, may your line be always stretched by PB rascals all the time.
eric
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Post by xxJiMboZxx on Oct 22, 2007 0:15:33 GMT 8
Thanks Eric One day to fish together, we shall meet With flylines running tru our feet Delightful to know someone like you indeed May you improve quickly your flyfishing feat! Till then, the PBs here are waiting for your flies to greet!
have a nice day! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by azlan123 on Oct 22, 2007 14:24:33 GMT 8
hi 67er great to hear from you again. well rapping or writing poetically goes well with flyfishing. the greatest flyfishers include Keats (poet),Walt Whitman (poet), E. Hemmingway (writer), N. McClean (writer, novelist). maybe our forum would produce one of these in the future...heh, heh
I really do hope the PBs will take and establish themselves here in the wild and stay wild & free.
The HK Forestry Deparment have also begun stocking the reservoirs with largemouth bass and some game species, but they are mainly domesticated and are not as aggressive as their wild brothers.
Moreover, very many of the buddhist would free fishes in the reservoir (an act of charity), and the elderly who take daily walks around the reservoir tend to feed the fishes with bread (another good buddhist practice of caring for others, even the fishes & good-luck tortoise), an action now banned by the Forestry (Spore$400 fine & six months imprisonment), and bad for us flyfishers as the fishes seldom have to work hard for their food & also takes them off insects as a food source when bread is so readily available. Worst still, it domesticate them!
The Forestry could do more, but limited resources is always an issue. Secondly, introduction of foreign species needs caution. For example the release of koi carps by buddhists & those whose tanks are no longer large enough for their pets, have created an environment disaster in our reservoirs as the kois eat up the water weeds, stir up the mud, and destroying natural hatcheries and suffocating the eggs & fries. They are also a great culprit is dessimating the fries of all species.
The Forestry is also right is levying a license charge for fishers in reservoirs, only Spore$6 for 3 years and permitting fishing only between September to March/. the moneys goes into restocking of reservoirs. Most people don't bother with the license & off-season rule, but our Forest Rangers arevery agressive about illegal fishing & netting, or the use of treble-hooks.
good to hear from you bro, cheers eric
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Post by azlan123 on Oct 23, 2007 12:15:32 GMT 8
hi 67er
the Forestry Department's approach to self-sustainable fish-stock in reservoirs are rather primitive and yet logical - let it be self-sustaining by natural-selection by survival of the most adaptable, and survival of the fittest.
Secondly, and a little bit better: if fish-stock is low in one reservoir thus leading to increase mosquito infestation, then they would restock it with fish from another reservoir that has become over-populated and thus polluting the water.
However, at time they would also introduce new species to keep the interest of the fishers who pay for the license. Here, the Forestry Dept. relies on our input through letters and email. But as always, you can write, but they may not listen. But more often than never, the new stocks and breeds come from "private & secret" or "sheer desperation" or "pious acts" stocking, or donation from university research centres or the Chinese fisheries research department using HK reservoirs as a laboratory.
Most if not all of our reservoirs are man-made. The criteria for selection is good watershed & natural runoff. However in many cases, its because there is already a river there. in these cases, prawn and crustacean, plankton and micro-organisms occur naturally. As for original fish species in these rivers, I guess hardly any - well, you know what we chinese are like, we look and an animal or fish and the first think we ask - is it edible?
however, 2 were created out of the sea-bed (plover cove - fantastic fishing!, and high-island - an environmental disaster!)
perhaps I will write to them and have them introduce PBs actively in the reservoirs.
cheers bro eric
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Post by azlan123 on Oct 25, 2007 8:11:03 GMT 8
Bro p.s. would you like to post your message with pictures? they do speak a thousand words, you know? ;D hi poison, went fishing again yeaterday at Abersdeen Country Park Lower Reservoir. could not locate the PB fries, so no photographs yet. Fishing was not too good: a. only lampans chasing the fly (several different ones used) but no takes, possibly because the hook was too big or the wrong fly. what fly is suitable for lampan and what size hook. b. caught 2 kois on your "bread fly"... actually I was hoping to get the chinese carps swimming at the edge. the kois were a real nuisance. but they were great sport. almost cracked my st croix 5wt. these buggers were huge. sorry no photograph. was in a hurry to release - the grandmother parks-walkers were pestering me and complaining that one is so cruel to hook these "saint"/"fairy" fishes.... and will try out the 9wt rod and reel (you kindly sold me) on the kims (HK green and speckled barras) next week in Shatin Bay at the spot call "Da-shui-ko" under the Taipo Highway Overpass. Have to wake up with the birds though. Thanks bro for the fly. cheers eric
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Post by poisonmaster on Oct 25, 2007 11:32:00 GMT 8
;D glad that the flies work for you...bruther Eric... Try the Varivas shad fly on those Barra... They were designed for Japanese Sea Bass originally so should work for Barra ;D
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